Tale of Two Talmuds: Jerusalem and Babylonian | My Jewish …
Posted By admin on May 29, 2021
When people speak of the Talmud, they are usually referring to the Talmud Bavli (Babylonian Talmud), composed in Babylonia (modern-day Iraq). However, there is also another version of the Talmud, the Talmud Yerushalmi (Jerusalem Talmud), compiled in what is now northern Israel. The Yerushalmi, also called the Palestinian Talmud or the Talmud Eretz Yisrael (Talmud of the Land of Israel), is shorter than the Bavli, and has traditionally been considered the less authoritative of the two Talmuds.
Want to learn Talmud with us? Daf Yomi is a program of reading the entire Talmud one day at a time, and My Jewish Learning offers a free daily email that follows the worldwide cycle. To join thousands and thousands of Jews on this learning journey, sign up here!
Like the Talmud Bavli, the Talmud Yerushalmi consists of two layers the Mishnah and the Gemara. For the most part, the Mishnah of the two Talmuds is identical, though there are some variations in the text and in the order of material. The Gemara of the Yerushalmi, though, differs significantly in both content and style from that of the Bavli. First, the Yerushalmi Gemara is primarily written in Palestinian Aramaic, which is quite different from the Babylonian dialect. The Yerushalmi contains more long narrative portions than the Bavli does and, unlike the Bavli, tends to repeat large chunks of material. The presence of these repeated passages has led many to conclude that the editing of the Yerushalmi was never completed. Others, however, have argued that these repetitions represent a deliberate stylistic choice, perhaps aimed at reminding readers of connections between one section and another.
While the Bavli favors multi-part, complex arguments, Yerushalmi discussions rarely include lengthy debate. For instance, both the Bavli and the Yerushalmi discuss the following Mishnah:
For all seven days [of Sukkot], one should turn ones Sukkah into ones permanent home, and ones house into ones temporary home. . .(Sukkah 2: 9).
The Bavli Gemara embarks on a long discussion of the validity of this statement in the Mishnah:
. . .The rabbis taught, You shall dwell [in booths on the holiday of Sukkot] (Leviticus 23:42) means you shall live in booths. From this, they said for all seven days, one should make the Sukkah [temporary booth or hut] ones permanent home, and ones house temporary home. How should one do this? One should bring ones nice dishes and couches into the Sukkah, and should eat, drink and sleep in the Sukkah. Is this really so? Didnt Rava say that one should study Torah and Mishnah in the Sukkah, but should study Talmud outside of the Sukkah? (This statement appears to contradict the Mishnahs assertion that during Sukkot, one should do everything inside the Sukkah.) This is not a contradiction. [The Mishnah] refers to reviewing what one has already studied, while [Ravas statement] refers to learning new material [on which one might not be able to concentrate while in the Sukkah] (Talmud Bavli Sukkah 28b-29a).
As proof of this resolution, the Bavli goes on to relate a story of two rabbis who leave their Sukkah in order to study new material. Finally, the Gemara suggests an alternate resolution of the apparent conflictnamely, that one learning Talmud is required to stay in a large Sukkah, but may leave a small Sukkah.
In contrast, the Yerushalmi offers very little discussion of the Mishnah:
The Torah says, You shall dwell in booths. Dwell always means live, as it says, you will inherit the land and dwell there (Deuteronomy 17:14). This means that one should eat and sleep in the Sukkah and should bring ones dishes there (Talmud Yerushalmi Sukkah 2:10).
After this brief definition of terms and law, the Yerushalmi moves on to a new discussion.
As might be expected, the Bavli quotes mostly Babylonian rabbis, while the Yerushalmi more often quotes Palestinian rabbis. There is, however, much cross-over between the two Talmuds. Both Talmuds record instances of rabbis traveling from the land of Israel to Babylonia and vice versa. Many times, the rabbis of one Talmud will compare their own practice to that of the other religious center. Early midrashim and other texts composed in Palestine appear more frequently in the Yerushalmi, but are also present in the Bavli.
Both the Bavli and the Yerushalmi follow the Mishnahs division into orders, tractates, and chapters. Neither contains Gemara on all 73 tractates of the Mishnah. The Bavli includes Gemara on thirty-six and a half non-consecutive tractates. The Yerushalmi has Gemara on the first 39 tractates of the Mishnah. Some scholars believe that the differences in the Gemara reflect the different priorities and curricula of Babylonia and of the Land of Israel. Others think that parts of each Gemara have been lost.
Within the Yerushalmi, quoted sections of the Mishnah are labeled as halakhot (laws). Citations of the Yerushalmi text usually refer to the text by tractate, chapter, and halakhah. Thus, Sukkah 2:10 (quoted above) means Tractate Sukkah, Chapter 2, halakhah 10. Some editions of the Yerushalmi are printed in folio pages, each side of which has two columns. Thus, Yerushalmi citations also often include a reference to the page and column number (a, b, c, or d). In contrast, the Bavli is printed on folio pages, and is referred to by page number and side (a or b). These differences result from variations in early printings, and not from choices within the rabbinic communities of Babylonia and the land of Israel.
In most editions of the Yerushalmi, the Talmud text is surrounded by the commentary of the 18th-century rabbi, Moses ben Simeon Margoliot, known as the Pnai Moshe. The Pnai Moshe clarifies and comments on the text of the Yerushalmi, in much the same way that Rashi (Rabbi Shlomo ben Yitzchak, 11th century) explains and discusses the text of the Bavli.
Medieval sources credit Rabbi Yohanan, a third-century sage, with editing the Yerushalmi. However, the fact that the Yerushalmi quotes many fourth and fifth-century rabbis makes this suggestion impossible. From the identities of the rabbis quoted in the Yerushalmi, and from the historical events mentioned in the text, most contemporary scholars conclude that this Talmud was edited between the end of the fourth century and the beginning of the fifth century CE. The codification of the Bavli took place about a hundred years later.
The discussions of the Bavli and the Yerushalmi reflect the differing concerns of the cultures from which the texts emerged. A comparison of the narrative elements of the two Talmuds suggests that the rabbis of the Yerushalmi had more interaction with non-rabbisboth Jews and non-Jewsthan the rabbis of the Bavli did. The Yerushalmi, produced in a place under Hellenistic control, reflects Greek influences, both in its language and in its content.
Traditionally, the Bavli has been considered the more authoritative of the two Talmuds. This privileging of the Bavli reflects the fact that Babylonia was the dominant center of Jewish life from talmudic times through the beginning of the medieval period. The first codifiers of halakhah (Jewish law), based in Baghdad in the eighth through 10th centuries, used the Bavli as the basis of their legal writings. Reflecting the prevalent attitude toward the Yerushalmi, the Machzor Vitri, written in France in the 11th or 12th century, comments, When the Talmud Yerushalmi disagrees with our Talmud, we disregard the Yerushalmi.
Today, there is renewed interest in studying the Talmud Yerushalmi. This interest reflects the current academic emphases on tracing the development of the Talmudic text, and on understanding the cultures that produced these texts. Many scholars attempt to learn about the history of the talmudic text by comparing parallel passages in the Bavli and the Yerushalmi. Comparisons between the two Talmuds also yield new information about the relative attitudes and interests of Babylonian and Palestinian rabbis.
The traditional approach to learning Talmud, which emphasized the legal elements of the text, tended to dismiss the Yerushalmi as incomplete and non-authoritative. Today, interest in the literary, cultural and historical aspects of traditional texts has prompted a rediscovery of this Talmud, and a willingness to reconsider its place in the Jewish canon.
Rabbi Jill Jacobs is the Rabbi-in-Residence for the Jewish FundS for Justice.
>
Empower your Jewish discovery, daily
See original here:
Tale of Two Talmuds: Jerusalem and Babylonian | My Jewish ...
- Jewish Encyclopedia : Talmud - JewishEncyclopedia.com [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Talmud - New World Encyclopedia - Info:Main Page - New ... [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 54 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum " - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 55 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum " - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 52 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum " - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 53 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum " - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 51 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum " - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Rav A. Somekh - Talmud Sanhedrin 15 - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Mizmor Shir Leiom Hashabat - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 50 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 48 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum " - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 49 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum " - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 47 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum " - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- 4 5 Talmud nazi Ovadia Yosef - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Iedid Nefesh - Video [Last Updated On: April 1st, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 1st, 2014]
- Talmud LALTRO - Video [Last Updated On: April 2nd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 2nd, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Succah page 56 Gemarrah Succot Rabbi Weisblum " - Video [Last Updated On: April 2nd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 2nd, 2014]
- Lejuneranena - Video [Last Updated On: April 2nd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 2nd, 2014]
- Healing bodies and souls: Parashat Metzora (Leviticus 14:1-15:33) [Last Updated On: April 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 3rd, 2014]
- Darwin 666 talmud agenda 28 - Video [Last Updated On: April 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 3rd, 2014]
- Legends of the Talmud - Video [Last Updated On: April 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 3rd, 2014]
- The Jewish Talmud EXPOSED! - Video [Last Updated On: April 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 3rd, 2014]
- Professor Philippa Talmud - Interview - Video [Last Updated On: April 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 3rd, 2014]
- Darwin 666 talmud agenda 21 - Video [Last Updated On: April 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 3rd, 2014]
- Darwin 666 talmud agenda 14 - Video [Last Updated On: April 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 3rd, 2014]
- Darwin 666 talmud agenda 13 - Video [Last Updated On: April 3rd, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 3rd, 2014]
- Rabbanit Iris: Tomer Devorah and Talmud Torah Matches Them All HEBREW 2012 - Video [Last Updated On: April 6th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 6th, 2014]
- The "Other" Talmud - Video [Last Updated On: April 6th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 6th, 2014]
- Koren Talmud Bavli - A Taste of Passover - Video [Last Updated On: April 7th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 7th, 2014]
- The Secret Jewish History of Tax Day [Last Updated On: April 8th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 8th, 2014]
- A Transgender Blessing [Last Updated On: April 9th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 9th, 2014]
- The Secret Jewish History of the Coffee Cup (Starbucks and Otherwise) [Last Updated On: April 10th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 10th, 2014]
- What makes this book different from (most) other books? [Last Updated On: April 10th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 10th, 2014]
- Ensuring the spirit of halachic marriage [Last Updated On: April 10th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 10th, 2014]
- The Talmud - Internet Sacred Text Archive [Last Updated On: April 10th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 10th, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Beitzah Yom Tov page 7 Gemarrah ' - Video [Last Updated On: April 10th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 10th, 2014]
- Blended Learning in Math at Herzliah - Video [Last Updated On: April 11th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 11th, 2014]
- Jewish congregation plans new synogogue off Georgia Avenue -- Gazette.Net [Last Updated On: April 14th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 14th, 2014]
- Jewish congregation plans new synagogue off Georgia Avenue -- Gazette.Net [Last Updated On: April 14th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 14th, 2014]
- Rav A. Somekh - Talmud Sanhedrin 17 - Video [Last Updated On: April 14th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 14th, 2014]
- 5:57 MINUTES - 1 page of the Talmud can be...your ticket to Eternity! - Video [Last Updated On: April 14th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 14th, 2014]
- Ma Nistana, Iraqi traition by KJ Talmud Torah - Video [Last Updated On: April 14th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 14th, 2014]
- The Only Non-Jewish Teacher at the Talmud-Torah in Hamburg - Video [Last Updated On: April 14th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 14th, 2014]
- Warrior Memories: Rally Club a catalyst for Warrior fanbase [Last Updated On: April 16th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 16th, 2014]
- 5 5 talmud nazi Ovadia - Video [Last Updated On: April 16th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 16th, 2014]
- The TALMUD - Video [Last Updated On: April 16th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 16th, 2014]
- Kabbalah Talmud Zionism Evil IMF 2 - Video [Last Updated On: April 16th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 16th, 2014]
- fossili evoluzione talmud agenda - Video [Last Updated On: April 16th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 16th, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Beitzah Yom Tov page 14 Gemarrah Festival " - Video [Last Updated On: April 16th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 16th, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Beitzah Yom Tov page 12 Gemarrah Festival " - Video [Last Updated On: April 16th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 16th, 2014]
- ISLAM imperialism talmud SATANIC MISSION - Video [Last Updated On: April 17th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 17th, 2014]
- Original Talmud - Video [Last Updated On: April 17th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 17th, 2014]
- Pasque di sangue talmud IMF Ariel Toaff 4a cattolicesimo eu - Video [Last Updated On: April 17th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 17th, 2014]
- Daf Yomi Talmud Beitzah Yom Tov page 15 Gemarrah Festival " - Video [Last Updated On: April 17th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 17th, 2014]
- Historical evidence of the crucifixion of the Lord Jesus Christ [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- Fighting for the right to pray [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 38 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 26 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 158 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 60 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 149 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 28 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 102 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 35 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 64 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 65 - Video [Last Updated On: April 18th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 18th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 42 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 123 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 133 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 118 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 162 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 55 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 82 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 140 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 88 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 129 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 66 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- Le Talmud:La haine de l'autre - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI 45 - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
- evolution agenda NWO talmud 666 x slavery Unius REI - Video [Last Updated On: April 19th, 2014] [Originally Added On: April 19th, 2014]
Comments